{"id":160593,"date":"2025-11-23T10:53:00","date_gmt":"2025-11-23T09:53:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.esteri.it\/sala_stampa\/archivionotizie\/\/2025\/11\/antonio-tajani-niente-accordo-senza-ue-e-kiev-sulle-sanzioni-decide-leuropa-la-stampa\/"},"modified":"2025-11-24T12:54:23","modified_gmt":"2025-11-24T11:54:23","slug":"antonio-tajani-niente-accordo-senza-ue-e-kiev-sulle-sanzioni-decide-leuropa-la-stampa","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.esteri.it\/en\/sala_stampa\/archivionotizie\/interviste\/2025\/11\/antonio-tajani-niente-accordo-senza-ue-e-kiev-sulle-sanzioni-decide-leuropa-la-stampa\/","title":{"rendered":"Antonio Tajani: &#8220;No agreement without the EU and Ukraine. Europe will decide on sanctions&#8221; (La Stampa)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Trump&#8217;s peace plan? It is just a basis, a starting point. We need agreement from Ukraine and the European Union. After all, only the EU can lift sanctions.&#8221; The Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister, Antonio Tajani, answered the questions on the conflict in Ukraine by touching a lacquered ivory surface with his fingers. These are the benches of the Subalpine Parliament, where Italy was born, in the heart of Turin. A few meters away from him, by one of those coincidences that seem to make reality the script of a short film, stood Russian director Alexander Sokurov, who has recently received an award at the Turin Film Festival, and has repeatedly denounced his country&#8217;s &#8220;censorship.&#8221; Minister Tajani did not say much about Vladimir Putin: &#8220;I do not think he is in a hurry; he probably wants to settle the matter before the coldest winter arrives, but it will still take weeks.&#8221; One thing is certain, however: &#8220;Peace is between Russians and Ukrainians: Ukraine obviously needs to play a role.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The visit to the Museum of the <em>Risorgimento<\/em>, along with his wife Brunella Orecchio, was a pleasure trip, organized by the President of the Piedmont Region (and his deputy in <em>Forza Italia<\/em>), Alberto Cirio. A few hours at a quick pace to enjoy the beauty of Turin, &#8220;an interesting and fascinating city,&#8221; after the States General of International Trade organized by his party. Already there, on the sidelines of the meeting, the Deputy Prime Minister had touched upon the subject: &#8220;It will be up to the Ukrainians to say what they accept and what they ask to be changed.&#8221; But after a quick lunch and the first stop at the Turin Cathedral where the Holy Shroud is kept, the tone became more assertive. Especially regarding the EU\u2019s role: &#8220;We cannot think of reaching an agreement without Europe, for the simple reason that Europe has imposed sanctions on Russia &#8211; hence without the Union&#8217;s agreement, peace cannot be made.&#8221; Point 13 of Trump&#8217;s plan states: &#8220;Russia will be reintegrated into the global economy, with scheduled discussions on lifting sanctions.&#8221; Minister Tajani, however, is firm: &#8220;It is not Russians that can lift them, only the European Union can do so.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The Deputy Prime Minister&#8217;s approach seems closer to that of Defence Minister Guido Crosetto: &#8220;The security issue is important, modelled on NATO&#8217;s Article 5, although something more can probably be obtained for Ukraine&#8217;s security.&#8221; The 28-point plan is &#8220;a starting point, not a finishing line, a basis for discussion. Discussions are continuing. Tomorrow (today, ed.) there will be another Summit in Angola and we will see how this proposal develops. We are only at the beginning.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>As the Deputy Prime Minister himself admitted, there was only one moment when he managed to leave &#8220;political worries aside.&#8221; It was when walking through the 4,000-year history of the Egyptian Museum, amidst the curious visitors in the halls: &#8220;I had been there before the transformation, but it is always nice to return to see a place a second time.&#8221; The afternoon had begun at the Cathedral: the history of the Holy Shroud, the fascination with the imposing organ, a moment of prayer with his lifelong companion, with whom he descended the stairs, offering her his arm: &#8220;Here you feel the existence of God.&#8221; An unscheduled ten-minute visit to the Royal Palace, an exchange of words with an usher: &#8220;You have a Salerno accent.&#8221; The most heartfelt moment, however, was the one linked to his Piedmontese origins; to the Church of the Great Mother of God, the flowers placed on the altar, the gaze at the name of &#8220;Mario Testa,&#8221; his grandmother&#8217;s brother who died at 21 from a war wound: The Foreign Minister said: &#8220;If you lose your life in combat, you receive a gold medal; a silver one if it happens later. He died a week after being wounded in the leg. He had volunteered for what became the <em>Arditi<\/em>; he believed in it, patriotic as only the Piedmontese could be. That young great-uncle was also a <em>Juventus<\/em> fan, like his grandmother, whom Tajani often mentions: &#8220;She played in the youth team.&#8221; The rest of his blood is &#8220;<em>Ciociaro<\/em>&#8221; (from the area of Ciociaria, Lazio Region). The Deputy Prime Minister searched for his mother&#8217;s hometown, Ferentino, on a historical map kept in <em>Palazzo Carignano<\/em>. There, however, it was difficult to get away from Rome\u2019s political worries. In the dimly lit room, politics was palpable, and his gaze fell on the seat where Cavour sat: &#8220;President Trump? He probably wants to achieve peace before the Nobel Prize is awarded. After all, he is a human being and, as such, made up of instincts and psychological levers and drivers.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"&#8220;Trump&#8217;s peace plan? It is just a basis, a starting point. We need agreement from Ukraine and the European Union. After all, only the EU can lift sanctions.&#8221; The Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister, Antonio Tajani, answered the questions on the conflict in Ukraine by touching a lacquered ivory surface with his fingers. 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