{"id":22951,"date":"2020-07-22T10:04:19","date_gmt":"2020-07-22T08:04:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.esteri.it\/sala_stampa\/archivionotizie\/comunicati\/2020\/07\/di-maio-ora-giu-le-tasse-e-piano-industriale-verde-conte-capo-5s-si-iscriva-la-repubblica-2\/"},"modified":"2020-07-22T10:04:19","modified_gmt":"2020-07-22T08:04:19","slug":"di-maio-ora-giu-le-tasse-e-piano-industriale-verde-conte-capo-5s-si-iscriva-la-repubblica","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.esteri.it\/en\/sala_stampa\/archivionotizie\/interviste\/2020\/07\/di-maio-ora-giu-le-tasse-e-piano-industriale-verde-conte-capo-5s-si-iscriva-la-repubblica\/","title":{"rendered":"Di Maio: “Now we need to cut taxes and launch a green industry plan. Conte head of the 5S Movement? He must join it first”"},"content":{"rendered":"

Minister Luigi Di Maio, your thoughts on the Recovery Fund?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00abThe core of the agreement is about the future of our young generations and not the interests of any individual State. This is great news. Europe was at a crossroads and it has chosen to respond. Now it\u2019s up to us to provide answers to the Italian public in the form of a concrete and ambitious plan of reforms\u00bb.<\/p>\n

Wich? Your personal ideas? <\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00abWe must grasp this opportunity to launch a huge modernisation effort. The government has all the qualities to achieve this, but, first and foremost, it has credibility. Believe me, this is no minor detail, and the M5S Movement too is showing great maturity. They called us populists before they got to understand us, then we entered the government and provided a decisive contribution to the election of President von der Leyen. Do you remember all the attacks we received? Today, I stand wholeheartedly by that choice\u00bb.<\/p>\n

The attacks came from inside the Movement as well, for the U-turn. <\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00abIt was a clear choice of sides, a responsible decision that has rewarded us. The results we have obtained prove that the path we\u2019re treading creates stability and offers opportunities of growth and development\u00bb.<\/p>\n

Who can take the merit for the success in Brussels? <\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00abWhen a team wins a match it\u2019s thanks to all the players and those behind the scenes. The success is a collective result, represented by Prime Minister Conte, who has showed great determination and resolve together with the entire Italian delegation and diplomatic corps\u00bb.<\/p>\n

The negotiations were tough also because a part of Europe does not trust those who introduced reforms like the \u201cquota 100\u201d<\/i> pension reform law. Do you still stand by that law? <\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00abIf we start reprehending ourselves even before talking about the reforms then we\u2019re getting off on the wrong foot. First of all we need to set a timeline, which is a very important factor. Businesses and the whole production sector is asking for an immediate response, our economy would not survive the long-drawn-out processes of European bureaucracy. Then there\u2019s the question of the stability and growth pact…\u00bb.<\/p>\n

Well, that\u2019s been suspended. Don\u2019t you think we should stop asking and set ourselves to work to relaunch the economy?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00abWe are already working to that end, but anyone can clearly see that the effects of the terrible recession under way cannot be tackled with the old rules. If we implement reforms by investing in certain sectors while cutting others then it\u2019s all useless. The stability pact needs to be overhaulted or the suspension extended. This is of fundamental importance\u00bb.<\/p>\n

Yet another request. But where to invest exactly? <\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00abThis isn\u2019t about requests, but realism, and regarding Italy, until we reduce the tax burden consumers won\u2019t start spending. Furthermore, we need to incentivise all those production sectors hardest hit by the pandemic. We also need to spend more in healthcare, build hospitals where there are none, ensure that the weakest social groups are cared for, create opportunities for the youth segment of the population. We need to protect jobs\u00bb.<\/p>\n

Couldn\u2019t we use the European loans to cut taxes? <\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00abWhen I speak of tax reforms I\u2019m referring to something the country needs, regardless of the European negotiations. Regarding the Recovery Fund, I think we should be implementing digitisation and sustainable economy projects, to enable Italian businesses to successfully tackle the global challenges they\u2019re faced with. Fully digitising the public administration, cutting waiting times, and creating common assets together with the other Countries: if German or French companies launch energy conversion programmes, the supply chains of those companies \u2013 which are located in Italy \u2013 must do the same. It would be interesting to coordinate the projects that need to be developed\u00bb.<\/p>\n

Regarding the healthcare reform you mentioned earlier, it would be sufficient to use the ESM, which has no conditions attached, unlike the Recovery Fundy. Why not? <\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00abPrime Minister Conte has said and repeated that, at present, Italy doesn\u2019t need it. We have no reason to doubt his words\u00bb.<\/p>\n

You have led and still represent a political party which, in 2014, went to Athens to boo Europe. That set up tables to collect signatures against the euro. That joined the same political group as Nigel Farage in the European Parliament. Has Europe changed or the 5-Star Movement? <\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00abThat was 5 years ago, the 5-Star Movement has grown and learnt from its mistakes. I find this a healthy process, which I myself officially announced at the 2018 elections, when I highlighted our full support of the Euro-Atlantic values and our absolute opposition to any exit from the EU or the euro\u00bb.<\/p>\n

When you left the leadership of the 5-Star Movement the party had decided to make radical changes and hold a conference, but then the reform process mired with the appointment of regents and the organisation of many factions. Hasn\u2019t the time come yet to decide what you are exactly?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00abToday we have a political chief tasked with guiding this process and we need to support him. Personally, my opinion as an activist is to strengthen our project, look ourselves in the eyes and make a further step forward\u00bb.<\/p>\n

You have already proposed to scrap the limit of two terms in office for the mayors Appendino and Raggi. Are you thinking of abolishing it for MPs as well? <\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00abThis is a question you need to ask Crimi\u00bb.<\/p>\n

What exactly is the role of the Rousseau platform in a changed Movement? You no longer hold ballots there before deciding on policy. <\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00abThe platform is a tool for supporting our projects and ideas, a place where we can air and share proposals. In order to make that step forward that I was talking to you about earlier we should be looking at what to innovate inside the Movement, not fight among ourselves and play at who shouts loudest. A voice is stronger when in unison. We need to build bridges, not raise walls\u00bb.<\/p>\n

Zingaretti has asked you to join the centre-left. This is Conte\u2019s project too. Your thoughts? <\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00abI think we\u2019re working well with the Democratic Party and that the task of a political party is to listen to the people at the local level. When the 5-Star Movement chooses to reorganise itself, bringing together everybody\u2019s ideas, then it will have clearer ideas about its own future. Today, we are still involved in widespread discussions and we will be able to find a way forward only by stopping and looking inside ourselves, as a single party. There\u2019s no point in putting the cart before the horse\u00bb.<\/p>\n

Paola Taverna has asked Conte to give you a hand. Recently, Alessandro Di Battista has often praised him. Could the Prime Minister become the next leader of the Movement? <\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00abYou need to ask Conte that. Personally, I would be very happy if Conte joined the Movement. He would be yet another great resource for us to count on\u00bb.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Minister Luigi Di Maio, your thoughts on the Recovery Fund? \u00abThe core of the agreement is about the future of our young generations and not the interests of any individual State. This is great news. Europe was at a crossroads and it has chosen to respond. Now it\u2019s up to us to provide answers to […]","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[23],"tags":[37,76,42],"class_list":["post-22951","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-interviste","tag-covid-19","tag-ministri-precedenti","tag-unione-europea"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.esteri.it\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22951","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.esteri.it\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.esteri.it\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.esteri.it\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.esteri.it\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=22951"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.esteri.it\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22951\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.esteri.it\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=22951"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.esteri.it\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=22951"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.esteri.it\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=22951"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}