{"id":23574,"date":"2015-06-28T11:17:08","date_gmt":"2015-06-28T09:17:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.esteri.it\/sala_stampa\/archivionotizie\/comunicati\/2015\/06\/gentiloni-il-terrore-si-batte-solo-2\/"},"modified":"2015-06-28T11:17:08","modified_gmt":"2015-06-28T09:17:08","slug":"gentiloni-il-terrore-si-batte-solo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.esteri.it\/en\/sala_stampa\/archivionotizie\/interviste\/2015\/06\/gentiloni-il-terrore-si-batte-solo\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201cWe can only fight terror if we\u2019re united\u201d, says Gentiloni (Il Messaggero)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cTo combat terrorism, we need to be united. Including the political forces, and by working with the representatives of over 1.2 million Italian Muslims who have every interest in isolating and defeating the small fundamentalist minorities who support the terrorists\u201d. Foreign Minister Paolo Gentiloni is analysing the global offensive of terror, from Tunisia to Somalia, from Kuwait to France, as he gets ready to leave for Jerusalem. His meetings tomorrow [Monday 29 June 2015] with the Palestinians, and on Tuesday with the Israelis, \u201cwill enable us to evaluate the chances for a resumption of the peace process. If some people think that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is less central right now, they\u2019re making a mistake. We need only consider the risk of a failure to resume the talks enabling Islamic fundamentalism to take ownership of the Palestinian cause. And that would be a disaster\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The attacks in France show some failings in the anti-terror effort. The attackers had precedents but we not being monitored. Are we sharper in Italy, or luckier, or are we not a target?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe risk concerns all of us, not just France. Rather than delude ourselves or pat ourselves on the back, we\u2019d be better off redoubling our efforts for greater security and placing our trust in the professionalism of our intelligence community and our forces of law and order\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Is there a risk of terrorist infiltrations on the migrants\u2019 boats?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe can\u2019t rule that out in theory, although for now we have not had any specific reports. The numbers arriving are very high, but no higher than in 2014. The flow of migrants will not go away \u2013 it needs to be managed and regulated. Taking an alarmist approach isn\u2019t good for the country\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Europe isn\u2019t helping us. The quotas have run aground. What\u2019s to be done?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe expect Europe to make a contribution that\u2019s in keeping with its civility and its civilisation. The dance of adjectives on relocating migrants \u2013 obligatory, voluntary, binding, consensus-based \u2013 does not seem to me to be appropriate to the times. The decision to agree to take in 40,000 of the asylum seekers who landed in Italy and Greece is a limited step but one with a high political value. Not doing even that much would mean rejecting any role for Europe. Italy is fighting to prevent that from happening\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><strong>In the meantime, ISIS is attacking. In one day, attacks in 4 countries and around one hundred deaths\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cI don\u2019t believe in the theory of a unified command of terrorist operations, an operational HQ that ordered a coordinated attack. Our response, however, must be fitting for a global challenge\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><strong>By strengthening the anti-ISIS coalition on the ground?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe coalition can be strengthened. Results have been achieved: the Da\u2019esh [ISIS] attack in Kobane did not succeed. I hope that in the coming weeks we\u2019ll be able to re-take Ramadi, in Iraq. Overall, Da\u2019esh controls less territory than it did last autumn. Italy is helping the people fighting on the ground. We\u2019re the leading nation in training the Kurds in Erbil, in Iraq. We can help the Kurds in Syria too, starting with the humanitarian plan. If we look at the challenge as a whole, another two factors are no less decisive. First: averting the overlapping of two conflicts and two parallel terrorist threats, the intra-Sunni campaign by Da\u2019esh against governments and the great majority of Sunni communities. And the conflict between Shias and Sunnis. From this perspective, the massacre in the mosque in Kuwait City is very dangerous\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><strong>And the second factor?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe battle within the Islamic world between Da\u2019esh and the Arab governments and Islamic regimes. The resistance of a front line country like Tunisia is decisive. We need to keep our focus on the Mediterranean, a focus that means helping the countries in greatest difficulty and ensuring that no more crisis regions are added to the existing ones of Iraq, Syria, Libya and Yemen. For Italy, the Mediterranean isn\u2019t just about history and culture. Alongside Europe and the United States, it\u2019s also one of our three principal trading regions. We\u2019re the Mediterranean countries\u2019 4th commercial partner, after the United States, Germany and China, with trade approaching 50 billion and largely in surplus\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Was the massacre in Sousse a mortal blow for tourism?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn the immediate term Tunisia\u2019s tourism industry will suffer an inevitable blow. So our economic and political support is all the more important. Tunisia is the only country that, with its political pluralism, has kept the promises of the Arab Spring, and it is the most closely targeted by the fundamentalist threat. A threat to which it has always reacted with firmness, first by outlawing Ansar al-Sharia in Tunisia, and now with President Essebsi\u2019s unprecedented decision to close certain mosques that are thought to be propaganda centres for terrorism. It is not our place to judge Tunis\u2019s decisions, but I can say loud and clear that Italy is at President Essebsi\u2019s side with his courageous determination to combat fundamentalism. And not just in words\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How, in concrete terms?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cAfter the attack on the Bardo museum, Italy decided on a partial cancellation of the debt and at the same time launched cooperation projects, with France, for Tunisia\u2019s regions, especially those in the interior. That commitment needs to be stepped up and certain major projects, like the Tunisia-Sicily cable planned by Terna and the Tunisian electricity company, need to be completed. And there\u2019s more. We need to help other exposed countries, such as Jordan and Lebanon. Jordan suffered a ferocious attack by Da\u2019esh when one of its coalition pilots was burned alive. And both countries are subject to enormous immigration pressures as a result of the Syrian crisis\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Libya is another black hole. What\u2019s the situation with the United Nations resolution that would authorise targeted actions against the people smugglers in Libyan ports?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere\u2019s a positive approach from the countries of Europe and the United States and, as I\u2019ve seen for myself, a constructive one from Russia and China\u2019s foreign ministers and ambassadors to the UN. The step that\u2019s needed, however, is and remains the request from the Libyan authorities, linked to the negotiations going on in Morocco. If a single government is set up, it will be easier for that request to be made. If not, we\u2019ll go on working in any case to that end\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Italy and Europe are facing not just ISIS, but also the very hard negotiations on the Greek debt. Does the referendum announcement by Tsipras signify a breakdown?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cInterrupting the talks and calling a referendum was a serious gamble by Tsipras. Incomprehensible, and I hope not irreparable\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Another thorn in Italy\u2019s side is the case of the marines [held in India], which has been dragging on for nearly three and a half years. Italy has opted for international arbitration. Can we hope, pending the verdict, that Salvatore Girone will be able to come home to Italy?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe first significant step now that we\u2019ve decided to resort to international arbitration is to request interim measures, a step that we will be taking in mid-July \u2013 technically, 15 days after notification. At that point the tribunal will announce its verdict in a matter of weeks. We will ask for Massimiliano Latorre to stay in Italy, and for Girone to come home from India. The decision on our request will be the tribunal\u2019s first important judgment in the case\u201d.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\u201cTo combat terrorism, we need to be united. Including the political forces, and by working with the representatives of over 1.2 million Italian Muslims who have every interest in isolating and defeating the small fundamentalist minorities who support the terrorists\u201d. 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